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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 2/10/2009
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Indeed, Andre! A very efficient method.
I must remember now also what my grandfather used to say about that. To each betrayal there belongs the betrayer and the betrayed. ;-) It seems that humanity has a secret wish to be betrayed.
Cheers!
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 2/8/2009
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"invented in order to keep us in the herd."
So true. How else should a small minority of intelligent people keep everyone in line but create a constant condition of fear. It worked thousands of years ago and it still works today.;)
Andre
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 2/8/2009
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I only can say, it would be much more humanistic, if we simply and sincerely would accept, that we just like to have a nice time in the middle of winter. What would be wrong about that? But still the "explanation" is kept, that "it is a christian celebration for god's sohn and goodness" and similar nonsense. The very idea of a god is nonsense after Goedel's theorem and modern mathematics' cognition, but imagine now what a nonsense the idea of a "sohn of god" must be. What is this? Do we still extrapolate our ideas about gender and family to deities? OK, but that's exactly what ancient cultures already did much much earlier than christianity. So, at the end we still are in 3000 b.c.? Is that the progress we made? ;-) To still stand in fear in front of something that never existed but was *Invented* in order to keep us in the herd? ;-)
About the image itself now, I am not as convinced about it in sepia. So... your wife is absolutely right! Tell her that she does a god job in keeping you best presentable! ;-) BTW, don't think that you are the only one that has to live under the restrictive aesthetical laws of... the government! ;-) And you might smile now but I shot already many many more of the scene in B&W. I'll be posting them very soon, but again we see that great minds think alike! ;-)
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 2/8/2009
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Thanks a lot for the nice comment and the input, Andre!
The modern interpetation, you say... Well, this interpretation became quite a contradiction in itself. The very reason for the whole celebration, its basic concept so to speak, is both historically but also philosophically a religious one. (Let's keep that in mind.) The "modern interpretation" however transforms it to something like a party or a celebration of merchantizing, marketing, the certain sense for glamour and luxury. No problem until here - cultural, social and civilisatory phenomena change with time. That's normal and good.
The problem starts at the point where the social perception of this celebration still pretends to understand it as a continuation of the same old interpretation, which has been religious and also philosophical. It is presented as a celebration of warmth, love, etc. where it is just a party of glamour in wintertime. So, the fixation on the once religious rules is a farce. They are not needed anymore, but still the churches ring their bells where at the same time an always growing part of newer generations doen't have any connection to that. For them the church's bells are "nice sounds that belong to this celebration". Thus, the clerical presence of all this is just betrayal. But we keep it just in order to have some "humanistic" explanation and reason for that. In reality we don't have that anymore.
Another historical problem is that this celebration doesn't have christian roots at all! It has been there before the whole christianity, like for example also easter. The church has just took it and presented it as its own cultural achievement, as it also happened in other religions. This is at least cultural plagiarism, if not already distorting willingly the history of human kind for the own advantage and of course also *power*. In our days the income of the Vatican still gets a huge boost during these days.
And the third thing I have to sharply criticize is all that lie about getting "warm hearts" and suddenly giving the homeless something to eat. What about the rest of the year? Don't they need something to eat on any other day? And what does all that conglomerate of "good deeds" wants to convince me of? That the costs of social care are transferred to us? ;-) Because the economies of the countries are too busy with themselves, or with buying tanks and jets?
- Episode 2 coming soon -
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 2/8/2009
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Thanks a lot for the nice comment, Aziz!
Though I also like the version in sepia, I can't be more enthusiastic about it than about the color version and even more about the B&W version. I'll be posting some B&W shots of the same scene soon.
Cheers!
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 2/7/2009
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B&W might work best of all for this one.
Andre
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 2/7/2009
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Hi Nick,
Well, maybe not "false Christmas" but a different more modern interpretation of Christmas. :)
The sepia version suggested below works very well on this image. Maybe it's just because the limited colour palette seem to match better in the sepia. My wife always tells me to never wear brown shoes with black pants :)
Andre
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 2/7/2009
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Can't really join your enthusiasm for this in sepia, Marcio, but I am glad if you find it so good. Wait for the real B&W-film shots, and tell me how you find them too.
Cheers!
Nick
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aZiZ aBc
{K:28345} 2/7/2009
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so very beautiful , the sepia version is a bit better , ..
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Marcio Janousek
{K:32538} 2/6/2009
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Much more interesting :)
...it was born to be sepia , good work!!
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 2/6/2009
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Thank you very much again, Dave!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 2/6/2009
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Thank you very much for the nice comment and the idea, Marcio! Sepia you say? Well, I find it very inetersting since I also took many B&W images of this scene and so it really seems that the monochrome fits well here. I converted it to B&W then back to RGB and applied the sepia filter twice at 100%. (Attachment.) What do you think?
As about the clouds on the floor, together with the shining light they are meant to produce the "Christmas atmosphere". Some lights, some sense for glittering luxury, some haaaappy smiles because of expensive presents wrapped in glossy paper... May I introduce you to the artificial and empty senselessness of yet another instrumentalized tradition of social life in the name of capitalism and money. But as long as we are happy for our new TV sets... ;-)
Cheers!
Nick
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Dave Stacey
{K:150877} 2/5/2009
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A good capture of this interesting lighting, Nick!
Dave.
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Marcio Janousek
{K:32538} 2/5/2009
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Perfect in details and exposure well balanced..
The image seems to have prevailed for the sepia color..
What do these clouds on the floor? :)
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