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Photographer  Chris Spracklen {Karma:32552}
Project N/A Camera Model Nikon D70
Categories Landscape
People
Film Format
Portfolio Landscapes
People
Lens Nikon 70-300mm f4-5.6G AF
Uploaded 9/22/2005 Film / Memory Type Digitex 512MB CF card
    ISO / Film Speed 0
Views 645 Shutter 1/500
Favorites Aperture f/8.0
Critiques 51 Rating Critique Only Image
Location City -  Ambleside
State -  CUMBRIA
Country - United Kingdom   United Kingdom
About Thanks for your feedback on my 'to clone or not to clone' shot. The overwhelming majority agreed with me and stuck with the little green fly?

But how about this one?! I'm really torn between which I like best ~ the colour version, or the black and white. I really like the splash of red and the golden shoes in the colour version, but also like the way in which the lack of colour forces the eye to concentrate on the composition and textures, etc.

What do you think? I'll be glad of your opinion!!

Best regards to all,

Chris
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There are 51 Comments in 1 Pages
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Jeanette Hägglund Jeanette Hägglund   {K:59855} 10/5/2005
I like the composition here and the colours are so good!

Jeanette

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Mary Brown   {K:71879} 10/5/2005
Oh, I really don't know, Chris. It's hard to decide. The colour shows the reflections and textuers better. However, the B&W. is so crisp and emphasizes the girl more. So, I'm not going to make a decision here, I'll just ernjoy both.
Mary

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Manu    Manu     {K:13082} 9/29/2005
Colour...it forces your eye to wander around the shot...well done, Chris

Manu

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Fadel J Fadel J   {K:13974} 9/25/2005
Beautiful shot Chris, I'll vote for the color as the girl stand out more.

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Giorgio Goretti   {K:15471} 9/25/2005
excellent image...and definitely i prefer the original color shot, in BW we can't appreciate enough the beautiful reflections on the water.
Furthermore, let me say this an incredibly perfect composition...
Giorgio

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PK- Photos PK- Photos   {K:13099} 9/24/2005
Hi Chris, first nice to see people or portrait pictures. In this case (portrait+landscape) I prefer the color version, this picture and the reflections needs the different colors. Very nice!

best regards and nice weekend,
Pia :)
-thanks for your comments to my simple landscape-pics:)

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Ismet Smajis Ismet Smajis   {K:6911} 9/24/2005
I think in colour is litle beter
best regards

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NN  NN     {K:26787} 9/24/2005
Colour - no doubt, as the colours really are beautiful here! Awesome reflections ...

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Jim Christensen   {K:18843} 9/23/2005
Works either way depending on what you are trying to accompish. If journalistic, then B&W if People shot color is nice. the shallow DOF sets it up for success either way as I see it
jimc

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Darlene Boucher   {K:15739} 9/23/2005
Wonderful image Chris, I think I like the black and white image better, but the color version is pretty great too! Beautiful composition!!

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Keith Ruddell   {K:3570} 9/23/2005
b/w Chris.. I really love the tones there..

Keith

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Chris Spracklen   {K:32552} 9/23/2005
Sorry, Roger, but I'm genuinely having to strain to see any signs of what you're saying. However, I take your pojnt about file size and may well start to upload pictures using a little compression.
Many thanks!
Best regards, as ever,
Chris

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cessy karina   {K:14205} 9/23/2005
definitely I like the color version :)
very nice capture of the moment, Chris
excellent compo and beautiful colors

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Roger Williams Roger Williams   {K:86139} 9/23/2005
Well there goes one good theory. It looks as if MY software automatically saves at 200dpi. And there I was absolving you... Now, I'm afraid, you will have to take full responsibility. If you can't see the edge effects I'll just shut up. As I said with reference to your "young lady and swan" picture, they rather mar the picture for me, but if you like them, then that's fine too. You can surely see what I mean, though, can't you? The line of white that comes immediately next to a line of black, and vice versa? This is not something that screen resolution affects, except at the very grossest level.

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Hanggan Situmorang Hanggan Situmorang   {K:37833} 9/23/2005
I like the color version more, Chris. The contrast will be better than in BW, in my opinion..:)

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Chris Spracklen   {K:32552} 9/23/2005
Thanks for the detailed explanation, Roger, but it's only served to make the issue more mysterious! I still don't see what you're seeing and I always convert my images to 72dpi in ImageReady before I upload them to the net. (I never ever save anything at 200dpi!!)

I've just checked the image in question and it was, indeed, saved at 72 dpi. I'm just wondering what resolution your monitor is and whether you're looking at it through a microscope! ;o)

Best regards, Chris

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Roger Williams Roger Williams   {K:86139} 9/23/2005
Sorry if I mystified you, Chris. The most obvious artifacts are the white-after-black and black-after-white edge effects. These are a dead giveaway for over sharpening. I have ringed them in white in the 500-pixel image attached. There is also some of that characteristic speckled look in the stonework along the bottom of the picture. But I think I may know the reason for this over-sharpening, and it's almost certainly not your error. The image when I downloaded it had a resolution of something like 200dpi. When Al's software sees anything above 72dpi, it automatically applies further JPEG compression, and then sharpens the resulting image to compensate (which may also suffer from JPEG artifacts). This is crazy, I know, because what does a nominal dpi mean on screen? but Al cut me off in the middle of explanations of this with "issue closed." So Usefilm is stuck with this. The only thing to do is to make sure you convert to 72dpi before you upload!

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Marian Man Marian Man   {K:80636} 9/23/2005
color for sure for this one dear Chris!!!!!! those reflections in the water are fantastic!!!!marvelous capture of a "fellow" photographer in action :)
bravo!!!!
my best regards
Marian

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Chris Spracklen   {K:32552} 9/23/2005
I have to admit that this comment rather puzzled me, Roger. I searched and searched for the artefacts you mentioned but couldn't find one! On my monitor this picture is sharp, clear and totally free from aberrations of any kind ~ as is the B&W version. It certainly wasn't over-sharpened and the process of saving I went through was identical to all my other shots. So I remain a little perplexed!
Best regards, Chris

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Chris Spracklen   {K:32552} 9/23/2005
Thank you for your kind words, Lily.
Best regards, Chris

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John Loreaux John Loreaux   {K:86210} 9/23/2005
Hello Chris! I think I like the color version a tad better but tomorrow I might like the B&W!!!LOL! They are both very good Pastor! Nice light colors, and detail!!! A fine effort My Friend!
My best................John

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Carolyn Wiesbrock   {K:14051} 9/23/2005
Gorgeous color, both versions are fabulous!

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Petal Wijnen Petal Wijnen   {K:50989} 9/22/2005
Neat 'stealth' capture!!! And it's color for me (2... ;-D), because the colors are beautiful and warm and add depth to the shot.... !!!! Neat shot.... great composition, wonderful reflections.... well spotted!!

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Gregory McLemore Gregory McLemore   {K:35129} 9/22/2005
Sparkling tones and beauty caught, in this solo moment captured, lovely display.

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Ahmed Ismail Ahmed Ismail   {K:19853} 9/22/2005
My choice would be the color one. The colors in the reflection her skin are so well defined in the color. Its beautiful. However, I would also add that had I not seen the color one, the B&W in itself is a nice photo. Just the extra feel from the color shot here makes it better.

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Khaled Mursi Hammoud Khaled Mursi Hammoud   {K:54005} 9/22/2005
Although I like the b/w toned images as the give more drama to the photo yet in this case I go for the colored version, it gives the photo life.
Great work Chris,
Khaled.

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Larry Quigley Larry Quigley   {K:12887} 9/22/2005
I'm an old B&W fan Chris, but I really like this one better in color. The skin tones draw the eye right to the subject. A very nice comosition! Regards, Larry

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Don Loseke Don Loseke   {K:32503} 9/22/2005
I think the color version is best for me. Like you the eye tends to go to the girl in color but just wanders in the black and white. I bet she is taking hers in color. Don.

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Roger Williams Roger Williams   {K:86139} 9/22/2005
I think the girl integrates with the picture as a whole better in the B&W. Also I think the out-of-focus areas work better in the B&W... a bit distracting in colour. I must say I find the over sharpening artifacts too obvious in both of them, but perhaps less so in the B&W. So I'll plump for the, er, less saturated image.

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Audrey Reid   {K:5872} 9/22/2005
I was about to join Dave Stacey on the fence, then he fell off onto the other side!
Both are nice and comes across differently. I'm bias towards B&W, so I'll go with that version.

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ARMANDO ALCÁZAR ARMANDO ALCÁZAR   {K:42404} 9/22/2005
COLOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sam Graziano III Sam Graziano III   {K:14064} 9/22/2005
I think the Color Photo works better Chris, To me the reflections in the color version has more eye appeal to it. As Fabio said the color version has an almost 3-D effect to it.
Now, in retrospect I think the B&W would make more of an interesting Photo to Print and hang up on the wall. I think that is because I am so fond of B&W portraits.
Either way, You have a winner here my Friend.
Thanks for sharing!!!

Best Regards

Sam III

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Tiger Lily     {K:10966} 9/22/2005
Hi Chris, I like the color version better. I have no problem focusing on the composition, textures and shapes. The water looks as though we could reach out and touch it.

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Francesco Martini   {K:12249} 9/22/2005
very beautiful pic!!! i prefer the colour!!!!!

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julie hugill julie hugill   {K:6730} 9/22/2005
Great work yet again from you Chris love both versions very much ..

Julie

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Antonio Trincone   {K:23167} 9/22/2005
color composition. for me it is not a distracting element for composition evaluation

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patrizio napolitano   {K:13119} 9/22/2005
I find that color this is a stupendous photo.
then I have seen that in black and white
I don't now know how to decide.
patrizio

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Rosario Esposito Rosario Esposito   {K:9796} 9/22/2005
Perhaps they are beautiful both, in B&W I appreciate it more.
-Rosario-

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Margaret Sturgess   {K:49403} 9/22/2005
I'm probably not the best opinion to listen to, as I usually prefer colour, and I do in this one, I agree the red and the shoes focus the eye very nicely, an excellent composiiton with very nice tones.
Margaret

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Colin Cartwright   {K:15699} 9/22/2005
Colour for me every time, Chris. Unless you have a rare, spectacular photo, that is actually enhanced by monochrome. For me, the BW is dead. The colour brings some life and interest.

Colin

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Merete Westerdahl   {K:11079} 9/22/2005
I just like it.. ;o) The coloured one is best...for sure
Hugs
Merete

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Dave Stacey Dave Stacey   {K:150877} 9/22/2005
I'll sit on the fence, Chris, and say I like both shots! I guess it really depends on what you want to say with the shot, and this one could go either way.
Having said that, I prefer the colour one!
Dave.

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Kathy Hillard Kathy Hillard   {K:25721} 9/22/2005
I just love the composition of this one, Chris! For me it's the color. I like the reflection much better in color, and Don't think the eye is drawn from noting the textures and comp at all in that version. Great job!
Kathy

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timur basol   {K:5769} 9/22/2005
Hi Chris.
I Like this photo. Beautiful colors. very good reflection.
timur

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Bulent Ozturk Bulent Ozturk   {K:6886} 9/22/2005
wonderful compositions, quite beautiful tones and perfect image quality.

well done Chris.

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Alvin Mak   {K:1737} 9/22/2005
I'd say the B/W version lets me focus on the woman better. Tho the ripples and the reflection is wonderful and I wouldn't want to give that up.

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B:)liana    {K:30945} 9/22/2005
Excellent capture of the concentration Lady collegue dear Chris. and yes the tones and colors are superb!
Kiss,
Biliana

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Karina Brys Karina Brys   {K:16541} 9/22/2005
Nice one! (I prefer the colour)

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Chris Spracklen   {K:32552} 9/22/2005
Thanks, Fabio, you make an excellent point!!
Best regards, Chris

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Fabio Ficola   {K:10466} 9/22/2005
In this case Dear Chris I think Colour works better.
Her Skin is in grat contrast with the greenish background giving a 3D effect I don't find in the B&W version.

Cheers. -Fabio

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Chris Spracklen   {K:32552} 9/22/2005
Here's the B&W version?

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