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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/26/2009
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Well, Visar, if that didn't give the whole matter of "abstracts" the kick into the right direction... I don't know what else could do. It seems to me that the "liking" has became the one onad only criterium for such a domain like abstract photography, which then turns any kind of "liked" image to "artistic work" ... automatically.
And we at last have to grasp that "abstraction" is not, I repeat *not*, *not* for the damn of it, the result of lucky coinsidences like these here. If we don't get that, we are going to suffer a long long time of mental misery. Simply because then we are going to lose one of the very fundamental principles of thinking, namely the ability to sublime from real existing physical world into something more "theoretical" perhaps, but also much more powerful for framing the basics.
As we all (should) know, a theory is an abstraction of reality, but definitely it is not the result of "lucky coinsidences" and even less it is measured by "liking". It is measured by thinking, if I may remark this.
Thanks a lot, Visar!
Nick
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absynthius .
{K:20748} 11/25/2009
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hi Nick,
just wanted to drop a line with regard to your reply Dave; and to tell you that i do support exactly the same idea on abstract work. that's due to the doubt i get from so called abstract works that i see all over, which, exactly as you put it, are result of a unexistant shape/ form/ content- but which happen to have something rather a shape! and not that there is anything wrong, but only not attractive at all, especially not for a thinking mind- which is to say that, then, even dolls in top aesthetics would be humans. and we know way to well that there is a 'slight' difference there!
cheers,
v.
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/23/2009
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Thanks a lot, Dave!
Well... just about everything can turn "interesting". But if it is visionless then it could also be the result of some... explosion in some industry or something similar. We could hardly name it "an abstract" then, since an abstract is only an abstract when there has been *abstraction* from the physical onto some few elements that are important for the vision that we consider.
Thanks a lot, anyway.
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/23/2009
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I would prefer to be rather a photographer than a photo-Grapher, Aziz, and even if I had to be a photo-Grapher I would rather choose to be one who... "graphs" having something in mind too instead of relying that good luck will be enough for replacing ideas and skills.
Thanks a lot nonetheless.
Nick
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Dave Stacey
{K:150877} 11/22/2009
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They do make interesting abstracts though, Nick!
Dave.
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aZiZ aBc
{K:28345} 11/22/2009
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You are a great Photo-Graphist !
The result is so beautiful graphic work !
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Luis Steinberg (EFIAP)
{K:21250} 11/22/2009
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A great photographer !!! Yes this only an example !!! Photoshop is a miracle... I know... Luis;)
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/22/2009
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And here again the horrible original.
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