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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/4/2007
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I am also not sure, Mahassa, and the same goes also for the image "The idea". A real problem to me, and I thank you very much for questioning it too, since it makes me think a bit more about a possible solution.
Thanks a lot!
Nick
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Elle Elle
{K:10958} 11/3/2007
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nice one Nick but I wish you had focused on the leaves,I'm not so sure though,
best, mahassa
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/2/2007
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And I can only agree in the most general way, Andre, and even independently of distances and focal lengths, that undoubtfully are a very very important part of the whole process of shooting a photo. I think that what you said about "being overwhelmed" is always valid.
That kind of "being overwhelmed", while being perhaps the very reason that makes us want to take some photo at all, is also a subject that needs some special additional consideration. It often makes us "forget" about what the view finder sees - somehow we still see the whole scene, or what we perveived, but not really the limited rectangle that will be cut out of the real world and will be on the image later on. Even after the shot we still sometimes see/fell what we saw/felt at shooting time. But the spectator has no other means to follow our views than that small limited rectangle. I was more than enough times quite surprised to see that people do not see what I thought to be so obvious on a photo, and this still applies.
A very hard thing to do, I guess, is to also be able to mentally detach from the own view, and see the whole scene from some certain distance - quite neutral and objectiv, not exaggerating that kind of "happiness" for the found subject, but also not denying its value as a subject for photography. Balancing on a razors edge, that is.
I don't mean with all the above to get rid of that enthusiasm, not at all. I only think that this enthusiasm has to be also somehow "controlled", or if you like, it has to be an enthusiasm with the appropriate amount of awareness about what the camera eye sees, and thus the spectator sees too later on.
And what the golden ratio can be, between enthusiasm and control.. well, go figure!! ;-)
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/2/2007
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Thanks Nick,
I think it is an improvement too. It is the kind of thing that happens so very often with all photographers. I think they call it being overwhelmed by the subject. We sometimes concentrate on the subject so much that some peripheral things creep in to our images. Then we wonder how we missed that in the first place. Thank goodness for easy cropping now a days. :)
I remember a lesson from one of my first night classes (many years ago) The instructor knew that he had many novice photographers in the class. So he made a point of telling us that most people that take photographs don't make very good use of their film because they usually stand much too far away from the subject. The family snapshot becomes 20% people and 80% unwanted surroundings. The family pet photo is often 15% pet and 85% unneeded surroundings. Okay,,, maybe we are not in that category anymore, but I still catch myself doing it now and then.
He used to tell us to get right up close to the person you are taking a portrait of, even if it feels uncomfortable for you. I think withing two weeks everyone in that class improved the composition of their images 100%
Andre
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/1/2007
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Hi Andre!
And thanks a lot for the nice comment and the suggestion, which I immediately follow. I think too that the crop makes the graffiti more important and it avoids the presence of uneeded things. It gets much denser this way at the cost of some less strong embedding in the surroundings.
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 10/31/2007
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Thanks a lot for the nice comment, Dave!
I had the luck that the guy used so much blueish color which then of course is almost complementary to the color of the leaves.
All the best,
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 10/31/2007
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Many many thanks for the nice comment, Avi!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 10/31/2007
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Grazie ancora, Simone!
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 10/31/2007
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Hi Nick,
These two make a nice set :) The only thing I might have done a little different on this one is cut away the top 10 or 15 percent of the image, leaving about one half of the grey concrete.
Andre
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Dave Stacey
{K:150877} 10/30/2007
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Good contrast with the colours of the fall leaves, Nick!
Dave.
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Avi
{K:70138} 10/30/2007
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This is a unique combination of mature and street !!! ... great eye ! :)
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Simone Tagliaferri
{K:28180} 10/30/2007
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Bellissima anche questa foto.
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