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Elle Elle
{K:10958} 7/10/2007
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frankly, NOPE
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 7/9/2007
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Yes of course! I can't imagine that any god, devil, hero, or "well-attituted cosmic intelligence" will change anything for the better or the worse. Wonder what those guys get their glorification salaries ... they don't do anything, man! ;-) They are all fired!! ;-)
Or did anything change because of about 40000 years of respectful prayers?
Nick
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Elle Elle
{K:10958} 7/9/2007
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IN A REAL WORLD... ;)
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 7/8/2007
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I am glad that you take it with humor, Mahassa! Laughing is always healthy. I can ensure you that I don't try to get too philosophic, since I am only trying to have some "common sense" - or whatever one might name it. I think that everybody can and should squeeze some thoughts out of the brain - not only the philosophers. Thinking shouldn't be turned to some kind of priviledge of philosophers. Many too many find it unshameful >:-D from me, when I verbally "destroy" their fantasies of the supernatural, all those myths and the like.
If I do that, I do that out of the wish to be sincere and straight, and also out of the wish to direct some thoughts to that kind of lightweight contents of such images, which on the one hand try to tell us something valuable, and on the other hand tell us tales about nothing. Much like Hollywood, you know, you put some fantastical sentimental moments of the "extraordinary" on a movie, without really dealing with them, and soon you get a hit. The recipe is guaranteed to be successful even after "haunted 23756". ;-) Or even after my 123756 flower of my naive period. (Yes, selfdistraction is delightful! ;-))
So, I do realize, or perhaps I *think* that I realize such tendencies like I described, and of course I'll ask myself about the reasons, and then use the information available to me in order to understand them.
The capitalistic materialism of economy seems to have induced a strong "underground" anti-movement, including all those romantification of flowers and ghosts and nature and the like, which is good news, since it shows also that we, all human beings, can't live only with such things - we do not depend only on bread. We wish more than that. And we perhaps answer for example the destruction of the surroundings by the economy with a mystified love for nature.
But I also have my fears that the reaction might get too far and become an overreaction. All these fanatic religious supernatural mythical attitudes that we observe, and we observe them *everywhere* on the planet - good morning western world! ;-) - can reduce our willingness to just discuss for finding the truth, or even fight if it has to be, but not with weapons. With words!
You know, when mythology takes the place of reality, it can get very very very uncomfortable. For all of us!
Best wishes in a real world.
Nick
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Elle Elle
{K:10958} 7/7/2007
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hahaha your sense of humor is great Nick (haunted 23756 and your personal style in discussing :)))) ) but as it is getting too philisophic I give up!! I'm not that good at philosophy my dear,
the only thing that I can say is that maybe it IS the reaction to the ongoing capitalistic materialism of economy!
take care, mahassa
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 7/6/2007
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Thanks a lot for the link, Mahassa! As expected, very similar to movies of that kind.
Well, a technically relatively well done image, though Shirley has uncomparably better ones, but in its sense...? I am quite ambivalent about such content, since it does have to do with rather important things, but presents them in such a "romantic" and completely false way, that I can't get rid the impression of a "Nothingness" that is only sentimental mud.
Accepting the way it is, avoiding tales and myths and romantifications and phantasms, generates much stronger thoughts and thus also images - and we will all get recycled not in fantasies but through very *material* mud. Simply dead matter that gets assimilated to living matter by the processes that postpone equilibrium (=death and chaos) and keep some stationary state active (=life and order) for some time by using some of the free energy (=F) of the surroundings. That's all. Nature doesn't need anything else. But that exactly might also generate the real hard question: How can it be that only matter generates what we call "spirit"? The question is much more mathematics than it is fantasy.
That, seems to me, is what we should be hunting for, much more than tales and the like. Of course nobody can deny the good influences of the imaginary in photography and in arts in general. That has been one of the most powerful engines that keep things going. But in recent times I have the impression that some exaggerated level of wished romantification has taken place that completely distortes any philosophical strength and depth. Maybe this is our reaction to the ongoing capitalistic materialism of economy - something that seems to be the only important thing in politics and social life? I dare ask that, and thus question myself too.
I would be very grateful to see such discussions goinf here, so pklease feel free to correct me, critique me, or even destroy me in all my mental excursions to such places, I'd be happy to interact with you and anybody else here in an open an honest way - and please, no politics! ;-)
So lemme introspect once more my own stupidity for the time being, since I seem to be incapable of grasping what such images like "Haunted 23756" want to tell me! ;-)
Best wishes and thank you very much indeed!
Nick
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Elle Elle
{K:10958} 7/6/2007
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sure, here you are.
http://www.usefilm.com/image/1314556.html
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 7/5/2007
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Indeed I didn't get you correctly. So, to get you correctly this time, could it be possible to copy/paste the URL of that image in your next message?
Best wishes and thanks in advance,
Nick
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Elle Elle
{K:10958} 7/4/2007
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oh dear Nick I suppose you didn't get me correctly, I meant the picture by Shirley D. Cross on usefilm!!!! named Haunted II !! :)
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 7/3/2007
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If that "everything" is not stating something, then we can only say that we like it. (Or dislike it too, of course.) Arts is not simply exposing some kind of "look here, what I have to show", but it states something about things, or even about its own existence. So, that's the difference between "Heidi on the mountains" and "Othello", I would say. ;-)
Especially movies like "Haunted II" or even "Haunted 3456" do stand in great opposition to, say, "The zone" by Tarkovskij, where fear is analysed very peacefully to simply nothing, enhancing thus its special nature as that which is strong based on thin air.
I can't be a matter of arts to simply say some story - that's for the kids. Arts has much more potential when it produces deep thoughts. Mephistopheles would have been a parody of himself, if Goethe would put them there to scare by being "spooky". No, it has been his revelations to Faust in calm studies that makes one get a gooseflesh.
Ich bin der Geist, der stets verneint!
Und das mit Recht; denn alles, was entsteht,
ist wert, dass es zugrunde geht;
Drum besser wär's, dass nichts entstünde.
So ist denn alles, was ihr Sünde,
Zerstörung, kurz, das Böse nennt,
Mein eigentliches Element.
(Need a translation?)
Best wishes,
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 7/3/2007
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Many many thanks again, Mohamed!
Nick
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Elle Elle
{K:10958} 7/1/2007
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why not? we can have everything in art. this is a big big world Nick. Take a look at the picture "Haunted II" by my dear Shirley D. Cross, it's a masterpiece (in my opinion) and it's spooky at the same time ;)
best to you, mahassa
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Mohamed Badawy
{K:11828} 6/30/2007
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WOOOOOOOOOW nick, Just Great work,, great composition,, great mood,, great colors tones,, well done nick , 7+++++++++++ .
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 6/30/2007
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It has only been a tree, Mahassa, but now that you say... very imaginative in the sense of "witches" and "magicians" that "control weather" - something that I don't believe at all in photography and in any artistic expression at all, since it belongs rather to the diaries of teenage. ;-)
But nonetheless thanks a lot for giving me yet another view.
Nick
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Elle Elle
{K:10958} 6/29/2007
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Nick, here the small black silhouette which I assume a person in a robe,has added a very mysterious and frightening sense to the clouds and the whole image,
best, mahassa
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 6/28/2007
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And hopefully their depiction on a 2D layer is good enough too?
Thanks a lot,
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 6/28/2007
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Many many thanks for the nice and also suggestive comment, Robert!
Best wishes,
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 6/28/2007
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And I hope that the photo itself, the representation of the landscape and the sky on 2D, was good enough in capturing the look and feel?
Thanks a lot and best wishes,
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 6/28/2007
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Thank you very much, Yazeed!
Cheers,
Nick
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Ahmed Ismail
{K:19853} 6/27/2007
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Very nice shot! Those are some amazing clouds.
Regards, Ahmed
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Campbell Cameron
{K:1682} 6/27/2007
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My favourite of this pholio. A leaping tiger? A hellish beast? Whatever you want it to be. We all see these shapes in clouds. Clever work Nick. Well done.
Regards,
Robert.
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Claudia Perilli
{K:31090} 6/27/2007
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A beautiful sky in this landscape.
Claudia
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M jalili
{K:69009} 6/27/2007
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Wow amazing . Regards .........
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