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Photographer Nick Karagiaouroglou  Nick Karagiaouroglou {Karma:127263}
Project N/A Camera Model Canon T90
Categories Street
Landscape
Cityscape
Film Format 24x36
Portfolio Lens Canon FD 24mm f/2.8 SSC
Uploaded 6/2/2008 Film / Memory Type Ilford  Pan-f Plus
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Views 343 Shutter
Favorites Aperture f/
Critiques 15 Rating
6.50
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Location City -  Engelberg
State - 
Country - Switzerland   Switzerland
About And another one with the mountains quite behind a hazy air in the depth. I'd be glad for any comments.
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There are 15 Comments in 1 Pages
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Nick Karagiaouroglou Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:127263} 6/4/2008
Well, Wolf, with that family name it is only safe forme to walk in the dark! ;-)

Thanks a lot for the comment and the suggestion for more light on the foreground! I'm afraid it would make the cloud layer too uniform, though. At least that's what the metering showed.

Cheers!

Nick

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Wolf Zorrito Wolf Zorrito   {K:78768} 6/3/2008
Gruetzi mr Karagiou.... pffff thats as far as I get.
Is mr Jones a valid Greek name ?
Would prefers some more light in the f/g road and buildings but I can imagine you like to walk in the dark ;-)

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Nick Karagiaouroglou Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:127263} 6/3/2008
Thanks a lot once again for the nice comment, Gustavo!

Cheers!

Nick

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Nick Karagiaouroglou Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:127263} 6/3/2008
Thanks a lot for the nice comment, Dave!

To be sincere I tried to avoid the spectacularity on the whole series, but still I am glad if you consider the mounts to be as spectacular!

The image is darker that "average" on many areas for keeping also a bit of that early morning light conditions. I thought that this is a main component of the whole atmosphere. Do you think it's too much already?

Cheers!

Nick

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Nick Karagiaouroglou Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:127263} 6/3/2008
Thank you very much, Rick!

Nick

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Nick Karagiaouroglou Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:127263} 6/3/2008
I know... the attachment! Arrggh! ;-)

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The image divided in 9 regions for 9 individual single spot meterings


Nick Karagiaouroglou Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:127263} 6/3/2008
Hi Visar!

And a big bunch of thanks for your comment that must be the result of really looking and not only having a quick and dirty glance! I must wonder how many other people saw that? It was exactly the hard problem that I was confronted with.

Indeed this couldn't be handled using the whole frame average metering of the camera since the light is just balancing on a thin rope here, and any kind of small deviation throws the balance out of the window. The average metering could be only used as a starting value of guestimation which then had to be fine tuned. Since the T90 has the ability of making up to 9 selectable different single spot meterings and then averaging them for the final shot, I just tried to adapt Adams' method for it.

First of all I divided the frame into 9 parts as shown in the attachment. Now, many of these parts are themselves not uniform in light and so a single spot metering on them would take into account either a highlight or a shadow spot. But if we use the spot metering on a highlight of a light region or on a deep shadow on a dark region, then we already have:

1) The limits of highlight and shadows, i.e. the max andmin of the light range.

2) The right average of them, weighted according to how many and how strong the spots of light or shadow are.

The T90 accumulates these values and re-calculates the weighted exposure value each time you add a new single spot metering. This way you can make a more controlled exposure, since you choose exactly the points that play an important role for lighting. If we extrapolate this to arbitrary many spot meterings we end up with the typical whole frame averaged metering, which doesn't enhance any important point more than others.

And that was it. Find the highlights and the shadows that you consider most important on each of the regions, feed the brain of the camera with them, and see what it calculates. One could also use the whole frame averaged metering and additional corrections with the T90, but then you have to guess too much and bracketting becomes inevitable.

Now I am thinking of a center weighted average metering on each individual zone, where the "center" is actually what you choose as a center on each of the regions. Might be better for regions that are themselves extremely complicated in light.

Thanks a bunch again and cheers!

Nick

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Nick Karagiaouroglou Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:127263} 6/3/2008
Thank you very much, Michele!

Nick

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Nick Karagiaouroglou Nick Karagiaouroglou   {K:127263} 6/3/2008
Thanks a lot again, Yazeed!

Cheers!

Nick

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Gustavo Scheverin Gustavo Scheverin   {K:164501} 6/2/2008
Una excelente y muy balanceada exposición, me gustan mucho los detalles suaves del cielo y las montañas distantes.
Bravo!

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Dave Stacey Dave Stacey   {K:150877} 6/2/2008
A spectacular background for the street scene, Nick! The foreground just appears a little dark on my monitor.
Dave.

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Rick Smith Rick Smith   {K:5490} 6/2/2008
Superb b/w and composition

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absynthius . absynthius .   {K:20748} 6/2/2008
Hey Nick,

you have preserved the morning atmosphere here Nick, with great sense for it.
(how did you achieve it?!
I think the lightmeter would have suggested you a different amount of light- so, you managed it well).
what i particularily find remarkable here is the merging of the sky/ clouds with the mountain and snow in the background - which apart for the contrast that i find impeccable its beauty explodes with the entirety of the composition/ the elements in it.

congrats and cheers,
v.

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Michele Beccia Michele Beccia   {K:16529} 6/2/2008
Nice black and white!:)

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M  jalili M  jalili   {K:69009} 6/2/2008
Amazing my dear ...........

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