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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/29/2007
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Yep! Somebody has to raise the consuming rates to the next unbelievable levels, and most of the time... that happens to be we. ;-) When does the D1250 come out? ;-)
I had to laugh thinking on that photographer that gets smaller and smaller in front of a camera!
But OK, staying out of all that is a good and easy thing to do. I think the only question that one has to ask the own self, is what to do with something instead of just having something.
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/29/2007
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Hi Nick,
It's the wonderful world of consumer goods :)
With cameras, there is always another step up just to make you feel a little smaller. "My poor old D200 is now obsolete with the new D300 out in the stores." Sometimes it is easy to forget the reason we buy a camera. It's a joke really.
Andre
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/26/2007
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Well, Andre, it's a good tactic to wait until the prices go down, because sooner or later, one way or another they always do. Especially near christmas time, when many manufacturers bring their new products (for enhancing christmas feeling ;-)) many products that are still great suddenly get out of date. It is incredible to see how fast they get outdated and cheaper nowadays.. But this goes back to the always "faster and faster" cycle that business dictates, and so if it's bad for them, they are themselves responsible for that.
I can only tell about the D80 what I've read in the comments/descriptions in magazines and in the web. It must be a very "clear" camera. It does have all the nice things of new age, but one can still get rif of them and just go for it manually. But of course it's better to just play a bit with it when you get it in your hands in some shop.
I can imagine your fun trying to steel your own car, though! ;-) Heavens, why can't a car be a car anymore? Why does have poor Andre get locked in some kind of spaceship that thought that Andre were not Andre but someone trying to steel it?
You're just right about the gadgets. Strange but you really pay more to *not* get them. Even the old good orange juice is more expensive when it doesn't contain all the additives that care so much about my health. ;-) Today I just wanted to buy a bar of chocolade, and now imagine that! Soon I had a "consultant" at my side, explaining me this and that, and how many almonds the chocolate had. I said, "excuse me sir, but I only wanted a bar of chocolate, that's all." And then I had to follow him to the... specialties shelf. Oh well... for the manual operation of eating chocolate??? :-/
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/23/2007
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Hi Nick,
I haven't purchased the camera yet. I'm holding out as long as I can for the prices to drop. Our CDN dollar has gone crazy lately against the US dollar. So a lot of the retailers are starting to get into a price war, so that we don't drive over the border to pick up our consumer goods. Good for the consumer, bad for the manufacturing sector.
I hope you are right about the way the new Nikon DSLRs work, because I miss the old way of shooting with my old Nikkormat. As you said, everything you need to do can be accomplished while you look in the viewfinder. That's the way it should be :)
Funny story about he cell phone. Very typical of modern gadgets. Sometimes they get it right and sometimes they don't :) I don't want to tell you how many times I locked myself in my car and set my own alarm off :) That is a lot of fun :) Everyone looking at you like you're trying to steal your own car.
The problem is, it is getting harder and harder to buy products without all the unwanted gadgets.
It's almost like you have to go to very high end, high quality products just to go back to manual operation.
Andre
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/22/2007
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I'm glad I could cheer you up Andre! :-) I really love a rather satirical attitude about much of the "modern" development, that was supposed to make things easier. We see how much easier it is to search for something under 73 different menu items while that %&$?-bird simply won't stay on its place! ;-)
So you bought the D80? If so, then have all the fun of the world with it!
The general acceptance of the "wonderful" menu driven interface by the manufacturers was again modernism without much thinking. This kind of modal interface is good for computers, but shooting time is something else. At least until they also develop some easily accessible button labeled "Freeze the world" or something ;-)
Not to speak about the icons instead of letter labels. Of course it is so easy to know what an icon means with a small running person and an exclamation mark over it. ;-) Or for example a camera and two circular errors revolving around it. What is that? Turn the camera? Or perhaps put it into some washing machine? ;-)
Perhaps also they wanted to make potential customers think that now everything is easy as the cameras have less and less dedicated buttons. Same goes for other products too - just think about mobiles. Mine was so thoughtfully designed that I have to search using a tiny joystick for simply turning the volume higher or lower. Well, imagine what happens when I use it and somebody talks loud. I have to take it from my ear in order to be able to see what icons I hit, turn the volume low (without hearing the other person ;-)) and put it on my ear again just to realize that now the volume is too low! ;-) Great!
That's what I like on my old T90. It's really very practical and handy in usage. All important things are at your fingertips on dedicated buttons and you can access them all without having to move your hand around the camera.
And I think that this is also something that you can do very well with the D80. From what I read they did take into consideration very strongly the needs of real existing photographers - of course, or else they wouldn't be Nikkon. I know that you are going to have much much fun with it!
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/22/2007
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Thanks again Biljana!
Andre
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biljana mitrovic
{K:48110} 11/21/2007
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I think we have same taste with landscapes :)))
I really enjoyed in your picture !!
big hug
biljana
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/20/2007
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Hi John,
Thanks for the comment. Too bad about you not getting much fog or mist to shoot in. It is one of the best conditions for moody images. Don't you even get fog and mist by the ocean in the morning or night?
Andre
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John Hatz
{K:156973} 11/20/2007
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Great shot, very importante the element of lighted trees into shadow - darker area, and the myst....ohhhh....you lucky! :-DDD I have long time to see myst to my place...about...perchaps 15 years! :-(
I love it...always myst makes so impressive photos about the mood...
Excellent!
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/20/2007
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Thanks Biljana,
I thought you would like this one. I think it has a romantic feel to it, without being overly soft and pretty.
Andre
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/20/2007
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Hi Nick,
I believe the D80 is much more like a "real" camera, so I can't wait to turn off all the auto for a while and try using it like a real camera. :) I had to laugh about your comment on the menus and sub menus. It is so true. By the time I fumble through the menus, I've lost interest in the shot :) Or, the battery goes dead :)
Andre
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biljana mitrovic
{K:48110} 11/19/2007
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I think you already know how much I love this picture !!!!
One of my Favorite :):)
big hug my fiend and thank you for sharing :))
biljana
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/18/2007
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Hi Andre!
Much the same with me too. I have good addiction to the richer darker tones and I tend to consider a given image as "washed out" much more quickly than many others might do.
What the levels bars of photoshop are to you, is to me the light metering and exposure correction capabilities of the T90. In general I have also the impression that several digital cameras tend to deliver images that look washed out many times but I don't have a clue what this might indicate. I thought that it was only my impression because of my already mentioned "aversion" against such images, but now that you say there might be some truth in your explanation about too much information. But then again, there should also be cases where the "superfluous" information is about the richer, darker tones, so I still wonder. Perhaps it is also some kind of general deficiency in light metering systems?
Anyway, I guess you would have much fun with a D80. Especially because I think it has a very easy way for exposure correction, which many times is kept in menus/submenus/and subsubmenus.
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/16/2007
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Hi Nick,
I usually find that the images straight out of my Fuji Finepix S5000 come out with a slightly washed out look to them. I prefer a richer, darker image generally. I haven't really attempted to fix this problem in camera. I suppose one reason for that is that I can almost always end up with an image I like by starting with that "semi washed out" image. It seems that there is always far more digital information in the image than first meets the eye.
The Levels bars in Photoshop are a huge asset for me :)
I often find that if I try to intentionally underexpose to get a richer image, it doesn't work as well for me. (too much noise with a higher iso setting that changes automatically)
I am thinking of getting a Nikon D80 soon, so I will have a lot of fun trying some different things with a new camera.
Andre
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/15/2007
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Thanks Kes,
I haven't been around as much lately, but hope to get some more images up soon.
Andre
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/12/2007
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And just out of curiosity, Andre, do you think that there could be some method to extend the dynamics range of the different light levels with camera settings? such for example like making the highlights stronger and the shadows darker, or perhaps only one of the two and keep the other as is? If one could control that, then perhaps some enhancement of that "depth" could be achieved.
Nick
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![Nelson Moore [Kes] -](http://images.imageopolis.com/images/5/7/8/7/5787/1481659-micro.jpg)
Nelson Moore [Kes] -
{K:20241} 11/12/2007
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great shot...
...well, shucks....:)
The texture layer works well, Andre.
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/10/2007
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What a beautiful comment Parehan!
Your comment is like poetry :) I'm honored that this image inspired you to write like that about it.
Thank you very much!
Andre
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/10/2007
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Thanks Alicia,
I also thought it had that kind of look to it. I'm glad you see it the same way.
Andre
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/10/2007
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Thanks Diego,
I'm glad you like it! Thanks for the high rating. :)
Andre
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/10/2007
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Thanks very much Nick,
I do tend to like landscapes that seem to have a lot of different layers of interest to them. I agree, the different light conditions definitely help to bring out the "depth" in th image. I was particularly fortunate with that great light coming through the middle of the image, touching down on the colour in the tree tops.
Thanks again.
Andre
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parehan .K
{K:27453} 11/10/2007
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An emblematic visual of the flow of life dear Andre, it does not matter what we are doing or where we are, most often we take surrounded by shadows as we do not know the outcome of our choices. confusion and doubt are intermingled in darkness with the light, clarity and haze fog, playing over it so teasingly.
Your eyes and mind saw this wonderful opportunity for a photographic analogy and captured it perfectly.
Warm regards,
parehan
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Alicia Popp
{K:87532} 11/10/2007
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Preciosa captura!!!
Una maravilla de foto, parece un óleo!
Felicitaciones!
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Diego Bullita
{K:17017} 11/9/2007
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hi Andre,
optimal landscape for this optimal shot,
beautiful colors of choise of angle,
for my 7 !!!!!!!
best regards
.diego.
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/9/2007
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An image whose thumb doesn't do any justice to the image itself at all! The tension between the light and the darkness is not only feelable but it gives me new ideas again! Except for the additional branches at the right I would say that it is a perfect description of seeing the world out of the darkness, as the title also says.
And here is also what I find especially intriguing. The world that one sees is not just a plane thing - it has depth that can be "measured" by the amount of fog/haze that makes it more and more "invisible" as the eye proceeds to more and more distant places. The very exact details/coloring of the foliage of the forest near us gets less and less dominating as we follow the view to the distance, while still seeing the black silhouettes of the plants/trees right here. A very consequent choise of how to make the depth visible.
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/9/2007
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Thanks Dave,
I darkened the whole image slightly. That way the foreground became almost 100% silhouette and the rest of the image became a lot richer.
Andre
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Dave Stacey
{K:150877} 11/9/2007
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Very nicely caught lighting, in contrast with the dark foreground, Andre! The fog gives it a slightly surreal effect, too.
Dave.
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/9/2007
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Thanks you for the comment Diego,
I'm glad you like it. I was hoping it would show up a little like a dark oil painting with a touch of surrealism.
Andre
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Diego M
{K:2668} 11/8/2007
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fantastic photo, surreal... the colors in the background...wuaooo..nice composition also
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