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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 6/4/2007
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Many thanks and wish you the same, Annemette.
But keeping the meaningful (or even extreme) debates that sharpen minds.
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 6/4/2007
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ja ja Nikos - peace be with u
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 6/4/2007
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I can't know what you know, Annemette. Should you have a different impression, then hust have it.
Still, what is really rude and also a hint towards an undeveloped mind, is to a priory expect the acceptance or even glorification of some given opinion just because it is an opinion. The same discussion about mindless shots has been carried out quite a few times here, but nobody reacted as immature. It seems that "other people" just discuss in an open and sincere way.
As about what is good, be as kind to allow me my own way for finding out.
Nick
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 6/4/2007
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Well, we both know why you act like this, Niko - good that you never get rude on other people here though.
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 6/4/2007
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When you expose your own thoughts, be prepared to accept the same right for everybody.
Nick
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 6/4/2007
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Congratulations, preacherman- it´s good for you that you as always regard your own work and thoughts so profound.
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 6/4/2007
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There can be no absolutism of what is "pleasant to the eye". But there are still elementary things that distinguish between conscious work and just plain coincidence. Much more than what is "pleasant to the eye" it is what is pleasant to the mind, i.e. suggestion of deep thoughts and also usage of sophisticated techniques in order to succeed pointing out what we might want to say though a photo. This makes conscious work unavoidable. The soft one would be but just another completely coincidental photo - shot wrongly and that's all about it. It wouldn't represent at all any wish to say something, much like spaying my name on some statue without thinbking and just because of the fun of it, as you already pointed out commenting on the photo "Train graffiti". But it seems that we have too many individuals in photography that naively think that arts is a matter of what is pleasant to the eye, which of course automatically turns my grandma to a superb photographer, just because she filled the family albums with neat accidental shots.
As long as the mind ticks we are all well.
Nick
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 6/4/2007
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In my opinion it´s definately better in the less pushed version exactly because it´s so soft and pleasing for the eyes. When you push it even harder the grain takes away the feeling of fireworks, I think. As always a matter of individual opinions.
Be well
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 6/4/2007
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Thanks a lot, Claudia!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 6/4/2007
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Thanks a lot, Annemette, for the nice comment!
Push it less, you say, well let's see. A weaker push makes it too soft for my eyes, since all the exposures were very lazy focused in order to not allow an easy recognition of the plant. Combined with the low light it makes it rather "fuzzy" in a very smeary way. I think I would have pushed it even stronger to get that "particle" look because of the strong grain, which could cause some suggestively perceived similarity to the particles of the fireworks. Anyway, I attach two PS-altered images for a better possibility of a comparison of the two extremes.
Thanks a lot a best wishes,
Nick
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Weaker and stronger push |
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Claudia Perilli
{K:31090} 6/3/2007
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Nice work.
Claudia
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 6/3/2007
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Beautiful although I would personally have pushed it less.
Best wishes
Annemette
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