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Joggie van Staden
{K:41700} 10/15/2006
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Very interesting - Thanks for sharing Annemette!
Joggie
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 10/10/2006
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Nice to see that photography initiates such a discussion, which is one of the main targets of arts: To make us think and exchange. Let's think further!
The detection of religions in very ancient cultures is a hint for the very nature of human psychology/thinking but not necessarily for religion's necessity from the pure philosophical point of view. We wouldn't say that the detection of weaponry and wars in those ages makes them being valuable in any way.
Religions, especially the newer ones, have very important formal weaknesses, making them to be predestined for being misused by everybody wanting to carry out their illogical and also inhuman plans: They all state to be the holders of the absolute truth and of absolute values that *have* to be accepted. I.e., the result of stating the almighty superpower named God is to follow his/her rules, but when you have more than one such statements from Gods of different religions then it can get dangerous, though it doesn't have to if we sent individuals like Mr. Bush and Osama Bin Laden to Coventry. But in order to do that we must free ourselves from the impression that there is some kind of perfect God that of course speaks with such persons on the phone and tells them to tell us what to do.
A theoretical system based on dogmata that one can believe but not prove, may give the sense of happiness, relief, inner peace to the believers. But it is not meant as a logical/political argument against other believers. And in its essence it says more or less nothing, since at the end it states: We have to believe that because we believe that. Don't take me wrong here, Annemette, I don't say that belief is in itself bad. The bad thing is to take belief for a proof, which then leads us astray.
Of course there is a good portion of belief even in mathematics, having for example axioms which one just have to take for given, but in mathematics it is stated explicitely that an axiom is only an axiom that intuitively seems to be true, but not some completely ununderstandable basic truth that some higher power has revealed in front of us.
Returning to that sense of happiness, relief, and inner peace, caused by religion, all this will inevitably break down at some certain time, because it is based on nothing more than an empty statement or even on lies. There is no happiness that can last if it is not based on the truth, and the truth is to be searched by means of careful aware thinking.
What do you think?
Best wishes,
Nick
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 10/7/2006
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Yes, religion is being misused by many people in order to gain political and economical power. Nevertheless I must say that there are so much more involved to a religion. Most of the people on Earth are religious and have been as long as archaeologists can detect people and their burrialtraditions.
Although disapproving of religious leaders that try to force people to live in a certain way there are still millions of people and also religious leaders that have a deep strong belief in God and who wish with all their heart to do well and are humble.
Religion does make many people suffer when the connection to power and politics is too strong, but religion is also a huge comfort and joy to the majority of the population on Earth.
Parting between politics and religion is preferable, but we can never avoid a connection of some kind because our individual cultures are very much based on our religion.
I disapprove of President Bush talking on God´s behalf while Osama Bin Laden and other Moslem leaders do the same. Killing in the name of a religion is the worst kind of hypocrazy that can be found.
I could go on! Thanks for sharing your thoughts
:-)
Best wishes,
Annemette
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Juan Gonzalo Marcano Prieto
{K:14254} 10/5/2006
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bello muy bello, interesantes esculturas nativas, excelente
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 10/4/2006
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Religion has been unfortunately misused as nothing else for gaining political influence and power. And it still continues to be misused, since there are not many things that are as efficient for persuading the mass to "fight" for something, as injecting them fear-venom of not being "saved" by the one oan only "God". (Which is of course "has to be *our* God. ;-))
Undoubtfully there are also many who just want to share. But those people, and those who want to ignite the philosophical exchange are most of the time not possessing much political power in their hands. Which of course doesn't mean that they are wrong.
It is in our hands to take the more philosophical path and search for the approach that doesn't need to be remote-controlled by the need for more power/influence/whatsoever.
In that sense the philosopher's stone can be very useful. Throw it on the heads of power hungry politicians ;-)
Take care,
Nick
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Mary Slade
{K:40338} 10/4/2006
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This is really fascinating Annemette. The textures and the different sizes. Wonderful to see.
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 10/4/2006
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Well, religion and politics are often so closely connected that one can´t always distinguish between the two. Still I find it important to point out that there were and are still many people who really have a kind of faith that moves them deeply and they want to share it with other people in the positive sense of the word.
Money rules some of the human world, but fortunately not all:-)
Take care,
Annemette
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 10/4/2006
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And I could go on forever listening to the very interesting and not so widely known chapters of European history.
Nonetheless, the main engine of spreading Christianity (after its first implementations, which were indeed idealistic), seems to me to be more "practical" reasons, which can be counted in gold coins. But I in turn should stop now in front of the danger of discretiting the vatican itself. (Intentionaly written with a small "v" ;-))
Take care and sorry me for any potential disrespect.
Nick
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 10/4/2006
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Oh but they were indeed also threathened especially with the rage of the Christian God, everything that they did was being miscreditted by Hans Egede, and the missionaires also brought illness with them that the inuit had no resistance towards.
Still in his heart Hans Egede also felt some kind of admiration for these people that had no police or jail but were people with a natural sense of behaving good.
Later on a competing Christian group called Herrnhuterne/Brødremeningheden came to Greenland. Their faith appealed more to the Inuit because it was a more happy use of the religion.
Oh I could go on forever. It is such a fascinating history that also involves tradingcompanies, the Danisk king and his belief, competing Christians, the hard environment in Greenland, how to catch animals and survive, not get ill etc.
Take care,
Annemette
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 10/4/2006
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Unusual Vision indeed . . . That seems to be your specialty my Friend. Great shot . . . well composed and presented!! :)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 10/4/2006
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Many thanks for all the info about Greenland's civilisation, Annemette.
With all this mental resistance from the side of so many native people here and there I can hardly believe that Christianity was spread by using only "peaceful" means. ;-)
Anyway, sympathetic people those Inuit! They must have been the originators of "Hell ain't no bad place to be", which was later covered by AC/DC! ;-)
Take care and thanks again for all the info.
Nick
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 10/4/2006
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Great comment to receive! Thanks Michele!
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 10/4/2006
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The inuit used to be very dependable on their catches/catchings and had a great amount of respect for all living beings and the elements as a whole. This is displayed in these faces of the people and the fish - a bond between them and a respect that goes beyond eating a meal.
A little PS: The people in Greenland had their own underworld and missionaries like Hans Egede had a hard time convincing them about the power of the Christian God that didn´t fit in with their life and understanding of nature. When Hans Egede talked about Paradise in the sky they weren´t that pleased as the woman with long hair is in the underworld. She has all the seals, fish, whales etc, growing in her hair, so going to the underworld was actually a good thing:-)
I could go on, but I´d better stop:-)
Take care,
Annemette
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Michele Carlsen
{K:146013} 10/4/2006
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WOW !!! What a find Annemette... this truely is native art... painted, or rather carved along with the shapes of the stones(?) landscape.. I like the Big head on top sleeping ... how clever and simple yet beautiful ( to me) this one is !!! Great find . Thanks for sharing this work of art...Ohhhh yeah and the fish ...top it all off!
Your light, and crop, and showing of textures ... all make this a 7/7 IMO ...
Best wishes,
Michele~
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 10/4/2006
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How interesting! Notice the fishes under the happy faces. A hint for the dependence of those people on fishing, accepting thus that they are but just another species in nature, and knowing to be grateful for the her gifts? Such a knowledge could be very useful in our days, especially when buying fish in exactly weighted packets in some super market! ;-)
Thank you for sharing that Annemette! Photos have to be sometimes simply documenting!
Best wishes,
Nick
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João F * Photography
{K:41945} 10/4/2006
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Great Annemette !!
joão
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