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Gayle's Eclectic Photos
{K:91109} 9/18/2006
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hehehe...our little secret,eh?
Thanks!
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Ivan Jimenez
{K:9078} 9/18/2006
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That blue is the shadow of a passing-by fairy...
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Chuck Freeman
{K:13616} 6/28/2006
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Nice photo-and flare is unavoidable, even to the human eye. I have noticed that Maxx 400 is a little blue as is Kodak 200 is a little Blue and green. Nice photo and many thank sfor comment on my posting.
Chuck Loved your self portraits.
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stingRay pt.4 .
{K:250401} 6/23/2006
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A lovely peaceful scenario with these two fisherman enjoying some late evening relaxation. I love the silhouettes and the gently rippling water. Well done to you Gayle and I'm with Rina, b----r the flares. All the best....Ray
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Paul's Photos
{K:35235} 6/11/2006
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nice scene... like the lighting as well... good work
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Kamran Bakhtiari
{K:24045} 6/8/2006
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that is great dear GG,great.
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Roberto Arcari Farinetti
{K:209486} 6/7/2006
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fine golden reflex my dear.. delicate..
cheers
roby
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Gayle's Eclectic Photos
{K:91109} 6/7/2006
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hi and thanks for the additional thoughts...i do have an understanding of the "why" lens-flares occur,but i was just curious about how opaque and bright blue that smaller one in my image is...
i thought it would be an interesting article to show and discuss the merits of using flares vs. not using them when they distract.
Chris is going to post one soon that shows good use of flares and i will see if i have any available to post...
cheers,gayle
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 6/7/2006
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Hi Gayle,
My guess would be that using zoom reduces the chances on lensflare, mainly because the angle of view through the lens is much smaller; less light will enter, and the refraction of the light in the glass, if it happens, is more likely to fall outside the sensor area.
The aperture does seem to have an effect on the shape of the flare; the smaller the apperture the less chances on lensflare, but if they occur, the more pronounced they will be - again, horse sense...:)
I'd say the quantity of the flares is directly related to the hue and intensity of the light that strikes the lens, and if they show also depends on the contrasts in the image - against a dark background, they're likely to show stronger than against a bright background, and the more light enters the lens, the more likely it is it shows, but I'm not absolutely sure this is the proper explanation. - I'd gladly post this in the forum to fire up the discussion, there's bound to be a UF member who knows exactly why lensflares occur.
Cheers,
Hugo
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Gayle's Eclectic Photos
{K:91109} 6/7/2006
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hi,Hugo...i was going to seek you out via a forum query to find out your thoughts about this flare subject...LOL...and you appeared on your own!
Thanks for info and i wondered if using the zoom out to max 300mm made any difference with the flare shapes,brightness and quantity....
cheers,gayle
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 6/7/2006
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Hi Gayle and Chris,
As far as I know, the lensflare is a result of (minor) defects and polutions nothing to worry about, and are quite natural in the glass the lens is made from, creating a slightly different refraction of the light, and concentrating it. The fact that the colour is a derivative from the dominant colour in the image is a subsidiary effect; with the refraction in the glass, the light is split up like a prisma, thus differentiating by colour. - this would also explain why there is usually more than one lensflare spot. In a primarily orange colour, the chances of enough blue light to create a visible lens flare are slim, mainly because of the lack of presence of that wavelength / frequency. (If this is true, a typical lens flare is monochromatic) In that respect, the angle of the light hitting the lens (as well as it's focal lenght) is also very important.
The lensflare in a photo shows as an overlay, and will in most cases not be there / not be noticeable, due to the proximity in colours (or faintness)
Oh, well, that's at least the way I understand it; I might be hugely mistaken...:)
Reading your explanation is also quite interesting. Never actually noticed the similarity in colour between the dominant hue in the photo and the colour of the lensflare. Maybe it's time to google for it, and find out what exactly happens...:)
Cheers,
Hugo
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Gayle's Eclectic Photos
{K:91109} 6/7/2006
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Chris,thanks for taking the time to help me with my blue flare query...i know the basics about flare,but am used to seeing polygonal yellow or white ones which i generally think are cool and add some magic for the right image...that bright blue one in my image is round and more opaque than i ever recall seeing...i shoot film so i know the bright sunset was effecting the film sensor,but i remember framing the shot toward the glistening water which in uncropped version shows as golden not blue....and per your other comment,this made me think to bring it up in forum soon so that perhaps it can be an interesting article with inclusion of when it works well and when not so much...light is fascinating,eh?!
take care,gayle
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Gayle's Eclectic Photos
{K:91109} 6/7/2006
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Chris,hahaha...think i hit the wrong reply button as that "crossed" com was meant for Rina whom i call "cookie" ;>
i do have a longer reply coming your way in a moment about lens flare tho'...stay tuned!
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Chris Boivin
{K:9030} 6/7/2006
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You haven't crossed me yet Gayle :) But you did get me thinking... I am going to try to get a picture where a lens flare accentuates the image. Will post when I get one.
Cheers.
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Gayle's Eclectic Photos
{K:91109} 6/7/2006
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ok,i will go to my room now...hehehe...remind me never to cross you,cookie!...lesson learned ;>
Thanks for the feedback and your support...
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Chris Boivin
{K:9030} 6/7/2006
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Hi Gayle,
Very nice composition, I like the thirds of water, grass and land. As for the sunflare or 'lens flare' and why it is blue in this picture I am not fully sure but I can suggest this;
The lens flare is unwanted lighting hitting the sensor usually associated when shooting into bright light. The light will then distort the colours already coming into the sensor. Since you have a lot of blue tones in this picture I can only think that that is what is being picked up. I took a look at some of my pictures with lens flare and found that the colours were usually associated with the main colour in the image. For example a warm orange sunset had orange/yellow lens flares. I am not an expert on the subject just trying to figure it out with you.... It is sometimes a desired effect and can produce some beautiful results. In this case the small blue dot is a bit bright for the picture and does distract me somewhat. A lovely peaceful image either way.
All the best,
Chris
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Caterina Berimballi
{K:27299} 6/7/2006
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Has it really come to this? Judging the worth of an image because of itty bitty flares???? Sheesh, GET OVER IT PEOPLE! I really could care less about it sometimes, unless it actually gets in the way of a subject, what the hell does it matter????? I'm not the least bit perturbed by it. Considering the scene and mood here, anyone who nitpicks the flare, ought to get a flippin grip. That means you too Gayle, bad gurl.
Ok, nuff said about that. Ummm... I love this image by the way. Not as "hot" as Catch and Release, but love it just the same... 
Ciao ciao
Rina.
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ali shokri
{K:1611} 6/7/2006
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Excellent photo captured / thanks for share
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Gayle's Eclectic Photos
{K:91109} 6/7/2006
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agree...of course i debated about leaving it as is with the natural sunflares...LOL..thanks!
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Paul Lara
{K:88111} 6/7/2006
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For me, fishing is about just that.
Living for the moment. Not about food, or even catching anything; just taking life one cast at a time.
I like the division of your photo into rough thirds, with the curve of foreground reeds helping me wander through your shot.
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Susie OConnor
{K:34798} 6/7/2006
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Very peaceful Gayle. The color on the water is very soothing. Nice one!
Susie
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Kathy Hillard
{K:25721} 6/7/2006
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You've captured that "last moment of the day" well here, Gayle! Nice tones! I think I would clone out the blue spot though. Kind of detracts.
Kathy
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