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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 8/31/2008
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It is indeed less visible, nuno, but so is the sharpness of the image too. I guess that the best compromise is really hard to find here, but this is exactly the value of it. It must be really teaching a whole wealth of contexted information about photography and processing.
Though there are many good shops and offers for processing film around here, I would really like to have a small darkroom too. At least I can use the darkroom of the photoclub in the city but it is of course not the same as when one has taht at home too.
Wish you all possible discoveries of the world!
Nick
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Nuno Borges
{K:1570} 8/29/2008
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Not only Rodinal was used but also the film was pushed 1 stop and development took place at over 30ēC...
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Nuno Borges
{K:1570} 8/29/2008
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Thank you very much for your learned and sensitive comments. This new version is a latter day scan where I hope grain seems less visible.
As for the developing color film in bw chemistry I did it at first for the fun of it, later I bought a box of Vista 400 from the Agfa bankruptcy and decided to experiment with the process, mainly because I can't find around any 1 hour lab that doesn't fingerprint, soil or otherwise mark my films. I found the best option is to use hc110 10cc in 300 cc of water at 24 ēC, and scan as bw positive (color positive possibilities are worth exploring too) allowing for the heightened density and grain. Some results can be explored artistically in that the resulting images tend to be contrasty, grainy and other worldly.
Alas, this present image here dates from the beginning of my experiments and rodinal was used as developer.
Greetings from Oeiras, Nuno
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 8/29/2008
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Thanks a lot for the info on the image and for the attachment, Nuno! Is the attachment anyway different than the originally posted image? I only see an additional darker zone on the bottom and a bit more space on the top. :-/ And why did you process the color film with the B&W method? Did that bring any advantages?
Anyway, don't be so sure that film has been "rendered obsolete". Thousands of profis will tell you what the advantages of film are, provided of course it is used as reasonably as the digital analogon.
Cheers!
Nick
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Nuno Borges
{K:1570} 8/28/2008
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I like your composition but the way I see my image is much more this one. As for grain remember that this is color film processed in bw chemistry, it is very aggressive but allows for the use of color film that was rendered obsolete by digital.
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Nuno Borges
{K:1570} 8/28/2008
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Thanks for your elaborate critique that was very didatic to me. Recently I've rescanned this picture and I'll attach it here as soon as I locate it.
Greetings, Nuno
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 8/28/2008
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Sigh! Forgot the attachment...
Here it is!
Nick
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cropped top off, cloned the wall at the top left, cloned off walking woman |
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 8/28/2008
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The idea seems to be good, Nuno, as the extreme angle generates also an extreme perspective under which then the persons look a bit like figures on a play of absurd theater.
The technique needed refinement. Even if we accept the grain as a good stylish element, it doesn't exploit its full power here because of low sharpness, be it soft focus or camera shake. The three women in the foregroud seem to be overexposed too.
About composition, it's OK on the bottom half but the top half looks unfinished. A quick (and dirty) alteration implies perhaps what could work a bit better. (Attachment.)
Cheers!
Nick
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