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Photographer Nelson Moore [Kes] -   Nelson Moore [Kes] -   {Karma:20241}
Project #49 Dramatic Portrait Camera Model Rolleicord Va Type 2
Categories Children
People
Portrait
Film Format Film 6x6cm
Portfolio Lens 75 mm Zenar
Uploaded 7/8/2006 Film / Memory Type Kodak  T-Max
    ISO / Film Speed
Views 992 Shutter 1/15
Favorites Aperture f/5.6
Critiques 45 Rating Critique Only Image
Location City - 
State - 
Country - United States   United States
About The whole family models! A model family!!! Yeah!

Rolleicord Va Type 2
TMX 100
1/15 second
f/5.6
mostly window light
scan of a small print
toned in Picasa2
clean up dirty scan with Gimp2 & resize

This is more or less the concept I've had in mind lately, not quite the crop I was after, but the lab cropped got my girls head every time, so I went with this closer view. Someday I'll get a good scan of the negs...

Not real pleased with the light on my girl's face...I did some touch ups on her left cheek but it's still not quite right.



Title:
"I'll meet you further on up the road"
Johnny Cash's Bruce Springsteen cover...
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There are 45 Comments in 1 Pages
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Susie  Peek-Swint   {K:7303} 10/25/2006
Great family portrait Kes ~ very creative to place their mother in that position.. I like your use of sepia tones to give an old-fashioned look... by the way I think the light looks fine on your daughter's face :)
regards, susie

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gianna piano   {K:15530} 9/17/2006
unquiet and charming shot. All series make me think to the film "the others". Very good idea. Well done.
gianna

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João F * Photography João F * Photography   {K:41945} 9/2/2006
Great photograph dear friend Kes i love it !!
regards
joão

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m , m ,   {K:15872} 8/25/2006
A powerful presentation of a classic shot! It is a dramatic moody image which provides a pleasant outlook. Nice composing and ideal presenting! The shadow of the kids’ mother behind is very sympathetic and thoughtful. Well done.
Best regards: Maxime

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KEVIN TEMPLE   {K:8657} 8/25/2006
well done I love this one

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Roberto Arcari Farinetti Roberto Arcari Farinetti   {K:209486} 7/28/2006
oh.. kes.. another fantastic shot and mood..
your style for the emotion is so BIG!!!!
i like it
roby

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Nelson Moore [Kes] -  Nelson Moore [Kes] -     {K:20241} 7/15/2006
Hi Andre, that is good information, thanks. It would be fun to have a darkroom, but I don't think that will happen anytime soon. If anything, I see a dslr camera in the future...

..and maybe that Photoshop program.
Kes

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Marco Donatiello   {K:12147} 7/14/2006
Un ritratto ambientato davvero bellissimo, ben realizzato e composto!
Complimenti!
Ciao

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Aykaan K Aykaan K   {K:13601} 7/14/2006
très bon travail...

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Andre Denis Andre Denis   {K:66407} 7/14/2006
Hi Kes,
One thing that you can do to experiment with different levels of contrast is try using a Polycontrast paper. You can buy a set of acetate filters to use with varied exposure times in the darkroom to give yourself all kinds of different looks to your image. The #3 filter usually gave me the B&W results I was looking for. Of course this will depend on what is on the negative to begin with.
Andre

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Eb Mueller Eb Mueller   {K:24960} 7/14/2006
Evocative composition, Kes! You can really get your kids to act for your camera! Love it!
Eb

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Nelson Moore [Kes] -  Nelson Moore [Kes] -     {K:20241} 7/14/2006
Hi can -

Excellent call. I should have got rid of that chair....Thanks for seeing that!

Best regards,
Kes

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Nelson Moore [Kes] -  Nelson Moore [Kes] -     {K:20241} 7/14/2006
Hi Andre, thanks for your thoughts, it's a bit flat...

...some days are like that!

The hands were a last-second thought. I think experimenting around with different film would be worthwile, but TMAX is all that is locally available. Seems like Ilford used to have some high-contrast film that I liked...

Otherwise experimenting with exposure times might help. . . ?

All the best,
Kes

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Nelson Moore [Kes] -  Nelson Moore [Kes] -     {K:20241} 7/14/2006
Hi Mary, thanks, but all the credit for that front page spot goes to Himadri Sharma's Featured Critique of that photo. Still nice though, lol.
Kes

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Liberte, Egalite,  Stupidite Liberte, Egalite,  Stupidite   {K:-194} 7/12/2006
This looks scary. I would not like to see it after dark, very haunting mood. Presented wonderfully. In my mind, it might look better without the chair she is sitting on. Brrrrrr. Cold here

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Mary Slade   {K:40338} 7/12/2006
P.S. Brill to see you on the front page today Kes!

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Andre Denis Andre Denis   {K:66407} 7/11/2006
Hi Kes,
As you must know, you have created a very haunting mood with this image. I usually don't read the comments before I comment, but in this case I did. I just wanted to see how many thought about it the same as I did.
For me, I feel that contrast is the big thing lacking, regardless of the mood you wanted to create. On the other hand, the image certainly does have that 1800's look to it, so I suppose it depends on what you are going for. The crop doesn't bother me at all. The obvious strong point is the "holding hands" pose, (something that a lot of brothers and sisters might give you a hard time with) It is a very charming pose that goes well with or without the spectral image of the mother in the background.
I give you full marks for using your imagination and trying to do something different.
Andre

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Mary Slade   {K:40338} 7/10/2006
Well Kes, this is funny- I was washing up listening to that Johnny Cash track just before going on comp. and reading your message! (I was thinking "graveyard boots" line would be a good picture title!).

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Lubi Star Lubi Star   {K:3903} 7/10/2006
oh, the series becomes better and better in their haunting beauty... the imminent darkness, the serious faces and the phasmatic form of the woman in the background makes an excellent depiction for a dark fairytale... wonderful image indeed... makes me shiver from both admiration and (always good natured of course) jealousy for its concept... congrats...
Lubi

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Nelson Moore [Kes] -  Nelson Moore [Kes] -     {K:20241} 7/10/2006
Hi Leo, thanks for the visit!
Kes

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Leo Régnier  Я£ Leo Régnier  Я£   {K:67696} 7/10/2006
Makes me afraid!!!!! Like a poltergheist scenne...
Congratulations,
Leo

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Nelson Moore [Kes] -  Nelson Moore [Kes] -     {K:20241} 7/10/2006
Thank you Pablo, they like the "work"!
Kes

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Nelson Moore [Kes] -  Nelson Moore [Kes] -     {K:20241} 7/10/2006
Thanks Jeanette!

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Nelson Moore [Kes] -  Nelson Moore [Kes] -     {K:20241} 7/10/2006
Don, I like your crop and improved contrast but now I really notice that light area on her cheek that was mentioned in the "about". In getting away from that lightness, I do agree the print is a little dark.

Someone told me "When in doubt, print it darker"...so that's what I do - a lot! I have seventeen versions of this shot, talk about doubt!

A better scanner might make a difference, but I see that light area in the print also. She has a light complexion and perhaps she was running around playing before the shot and was flushed in the face, but I don't remember.

Thanks for all the effort and ideas, I appreciate them. I'm thinking about re-doing this shot, turning them a bit to their right and moving the boy back a bit, with light added up front. I'll keep your suggestions in mind.

All the best,
Kes

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Pablo Dylan Pablo Dylan   {K:63918} 7/9/2006
Great suggestive shot,good tones and marvelous expression of children.

Pablo

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Jeanette Hägglund Jeanette Hägglund   {K:59855} 7/9/2006
Splendid how you include one more in the story - the mother! Excellent

Jeanette

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Don Loseke Don Loseke   {K:32503} 7/9/2006
Kes, I took the liberty to work on this image a little. See what you think. Don

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Nelson Moore [Kes] -  Nelson Moore [Kes] -     {K:20241} 7/9/2006
Thanks Don. Looking at it again, I wonder if the right side should be cropped a bit. Wish it had a little more room to the left of my boy.
Regards, Kes

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Nelson Moore [Kes] -  Nelson Moore [Kes] -     {K:20241} 7/9/2006
Thank you Robert, for your support. Hope you have a nice day also,
Kes

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Nelson Moore [Kes] -  Nelson Moore [Kes] -     {K:20241} 7/9/2006
Thank you, Virgis, for your nice comment.
Kind regards,
Kes

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Nelson Moore [Kes] -  Nelson Moore [Kes] -     {K:20241} 7/9/2006
Thanks Marco! I liked your portfolio too. Great portraits you have.
Kes

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Don Loseke Don Loseke   {K:32503} 7/9/2006
A great idea. Nice sepia tones. Don.

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Nelson Moore [Kes] -  Nelson Moore [Kes] -     {K:20241} 7/9/2006
Thanks Mary! We went to a bluegrass concert yesterday and despite that, during all the breaks I was humming this tune (photo title) from the new Johnny Cash CD!
Cheers,
Kes

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Robert Kocs Robert Kocs   {K:89085} 7/8/2006
Hi my friend! I think so this is a very interesting
family portrait shot with gloomy feeling.
I do love your style dear Kes! The feeling and tonality
superb and excellent. Absolutely great study and
photograph. It reminds me an old movie.
Nicely done my friend! Congrats!

Have a nice day
Robert

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Virgis Dromantas Virgis Dromantas   {K:4212} 7/8/2006
Very strong concept! nice approach to convey it. Well done!

All of the best to you.
Virgis

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Morc Piantedos Morc Piantedos   {K:21834} 7/8/2006
stunning, for me !
great concept and work!
compliments,
marco

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Mary Slade   {K:40338} 7/8/2006
These images are a wonderful idea- so atmospheric. I was going to say like parts of a film. But now I see them as three films- two follow ups each distinct. The face in this not clear, the colour and the hands being held- whole stories. (Love Johnny Cash- he could write. Him and my fave Willie Nelson would certainly write songs from your images!)

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Nelson Moore [Kes] -  Nelson Moore [Kes] -     {K:20241} 7/8/2006
Hi Gary,

Thanks for taking a look. And thanks for your interpretation, my wife does have a Mona Lisa look back there! I was hoping for a tad more detail in here but it turned out ok.

Best regards,
Kes

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Nelson Moore [Kes] -  Nelson Moore [Kes] -     {K:20241} 7/8/2006
Hi Alex, thanks for taking a look and making a comment! That solemn look comes from the slow shutter speed...it's easier to hold than a smile...so I just took advantage of the situation/light.

Thanks for the feedback on your initial eye movement upon viewing this shot. I'm so pleased that you were able to see the joy in the shot.

Kind regards,
Kes

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Nelson Moore [Kes] -  Nelson Moore [Kes] -     {K:20241} 7/8/2006
Thank you Alicia, I'm so glad you like this shot.
Kes

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Nelson Moore [Kes] -  Nelson Moore [Kes] -     {K:20241} 7/8/2006
Hi Ray, thanks for your thoughtful comment.

To clarify, the lab crops I referred to in the "about" are the small prints from the lab off the negatives. The negative crop - how it was shot - is better (there is some room above her head), it's just that my lab can't print the full frame on the small paper size in their machine for this format. As it is 6x6 I'm not sure why the height would be cropped in the print, but many years ago I had a photo lab and I recall some crop/print issues.

For this shot I had moved the camera in and this was a planned crop. There is still a crop compared to the negative, but as you noted it works ok here. In the other shots their feet were included, and that didn't look quite right with the girl's head falling out of the shot.

There was a lot of dirt/dust on this shot, some from my scanner but a lot from the lab. I don't appreciate that business policy; there were stacks of prints that were unacceptable to sale back when I had the one-hour photo lab. {sigh} Yes, I lost money on that venture! : )

Ray, as you know smiles are a whole 'nother ballgame! Faster shutter speeds, more light, timing, old eyes need auto focus, and probably need to set up strobes and on and on. You can see their smiles in the comments of "R&J # 2". But you are right, I need to do all that...

All the best,
Kes

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stingRay pt.4 . stingRay pt.4 .   {K:250401} 7/8/2006
You have used some very low lighting effects from a natural source and have done well to retain as much detail as you have.The result is a wonderful dramatic moody study and as scans go, it looks very good to me Kes. I love the inclusion of your wife in the background of this shot and I think the idea is highly creative and imaginative. It is a shame about the crop to your daughter's head but that is no bad thing, it certainly doesn't reduce the magnetic effect of this excellent composition. I would request of you to take a less sombre double portrait of your children as I feel sure their smiles would look beautiful. All the very best my friend.....Ray

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Billy Bloggs Billy Bloggs   {K:51043} 7/8/2006
To me, this image has a 1930's depression mixed with horror movie feel to it. The deadpan faces and the Mona Lisa shadow behind the curtain are chilling. It's a great piece of theatre and I think the light fits the mood well.
Regards, Gary

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Alex Wasilewski Alex Wasilewski   {K:888} 7/8/2006
At first glance, this seemed like an innocent portraiture of two siblings (perhaps), for i did not notice the shadowy figure in the background...Then i noticed the despair in their eyes which then led me to see the figure in the background...You would think it would be the other way around but their sadness had me looking deeper into the photograph, and my eyes met the other figure lurking in the back...What a great and seemingly simple composition that is perfectly executed!! Great job on capturing a photo that is as pleasing to the eye as it is to the mind and soul!!!

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Alicia Popp   {K:87532} 7/8/2006
que bonitos niños... y una imagen que inmediatamente da origen a una historia, esa imagen difusa da un toque de misterio, e incentiva la imaginación. Felicitaciones!

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