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sean coulter
{K:296} 10/2/2003
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First off calling the man a bum is ignorant... the man is definitely down on his luck, but the word bum is derogatory... secondly the use of loaded language with this picture has become intolerable... yes you are 16 ryan and you have lots to learn not only with photography, but also as an individual. You and your friends may have had fun with this gentleman who was loaded, but alas one day this could be you or one of your friends, and thus the other hand drops... you can successfully and tastefully document street culture and show the life of the homeless and you can exploit it. It seems to be you may have unintentionally exploited this poor man and in doing that you may have been wrong, but you also created a strong emotionally charged image... why not try to fix the framing and exposure, for if you need you would have an amazing photo. peace and keep shooting, your work is tasty... sean
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Richard Ivan
{K:512} 2/20/2003
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i cant believe that this one picture of a bum raised so much contreversy...
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Donna Lauritzen
{K:542} 2/17/2003
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Altaf,
First of all, let me say that this is not a comment about the photo! I saw your comment, and have a question/favor....
Obviously, there are a lot of comments about this photo, and someone who's viewing it for the first time might not read all the way through them, to see your comment regarding banning everyone who posts here. I'm guessing, from your comment, that would mean that anyone who posted a comment about this picture would then be banned.
Is it at all possible to stop future viewers from posting comments, then? It would seem unfair if people who posted one message here would be banned because someone else posted a message... especially if they haven't seen your comment.
I don't know if this is something that can be done, but if it is possible to block comments, I know I would appreciate it (so that I don't get banned because someone else comments).
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al shaikh
{K:15790} 2/17/2003
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This is the one and only warning to all of you. Cut it out or you ALL get banned permanently. Understood?
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Andy Ly
{K:716} 2/17/2003
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Quit bitching damnit, your images are getting more views than mines!
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ryan bailey
{K:61} 2/17/2003
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god you people are so gay i am 16 years old, I have many eyars to leanr about photography sorry this guy came up to us and was goign crazy i ride a bike and sall on another comment that you guys said that destryoing propertyy wasnt nice screw that we ride and shread everything...
TAKE ME OFF THIS GAY ASS SITE now!
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Donna Lauritzen
{K:542} 2/17/2003
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Seems to me that not only is the photo a commentary on the status of society today... particularly the "next generation", but so are the comments made by the young people.
Personally, I think it's a sad commentary. It's sad to think that this is the next generation of "leaders".
As far as the photo goes, the gentleman's face seems to be the only one that's properly exposed. The kid on the left is definitely "blown out" and the kid on the right, while not bad, is a little bit dark.
As far as composition (which, by the way, contributes to the technical "merit" of any photograph), it seems to me that what has been interpreted as a commentary on today's society is not at all what you intended to capture. It looks like a bunch of kids, out having fun at other people's expense, who happen to have a camera along for snapshots. In other words... I doubt you were trying to portray your friends (and your generation) in such a bad way. I think you were just out goofing around, doing what you always do, and thought this was funny.... which in itself is a sad commentary.
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Andy Ly
{K:716} 2/16/2003
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Ryan,
Very controversial image you got here. I personally do not advocate the exploitation of homeless people. Nevertheless, I am wondering why you posted this image here. I am pretty certain you realize that this site is to share and comment on creative photography. Your subject matter: If you want people to look at your image without giving you a biased opinion based on you being an evil person for taking advantage of an innocent person, then your image must be executed damn well. Then the only thing people can say is.. "man, this image is beautifully printed" and then can they look at your work seriously and what you are trying to convey.
On the other hand, you might think that this photo is cool, who knows. But the image does not tell me anything; more than it does leave an impression of you as the photographer.
If you want to engage the audience, you will need to do more than just point your camera and shoot at what goes on daily within your life.
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Chris Gillis
{K:90} 2/16/2003
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This image does now "comment on today's society and what it has become." It is just a image of three people stajndign around. The exposure, composition are weak and could be stronger. Beyond the blowwn out highlights ont eh left and the distracting white bag, the relationships within the image are not clear. In other wrds, there is no message here "comment on today's society and what it has become." This could have been much beter if you stepped back from the voyeuristisc gaze you have here and got an image that betrayed the outward positions of three drunks of varying social standing and put it in some sort fo larger, more meaningful context. The question is how to do this? The first part is to spend more time and move beyond the grab shot. Doing this will get you a whole host of shots from which to edit and the ability to see what the realtionship are here, and work out the compositional and expsoure issues.
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Chris Lauritzen
{K:14949} 2/15/2003
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Yes Pete was wrong but Ryan is getting very close to being worse. Ryan, don't let yourself come to others level. You tookl a good picture but others don't like the content, well that is ok not everyone will like your work. Just cool down and go shoot some more shots.
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ryan bailey
{K:61} 2/15/2003
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Hey Pete why dont you come to my house so i can BASH your skull in wiht your faggot camera
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Daniel Jarrett
{K:612} 2/14/2003
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Aaron - Yes this is a critique website. There for telling someone that there picture is wrong and that they should kick themself in the ass isn't a critique. Pete was downright WRONG to say that comment.
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ryan bailey
{K:61} 2/14/2003
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trUUU
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Aaron Charlton Smith
{K:625} 2/13/2003
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I agree with the earlier comments...definately shows what's happened to society nowadays. I wouldn't say this picture, "rules", but it definately sends a message. Take it easy, Ryan. It may be a website...but it's also a critique and help website. You submit your photos for those two things, and to share them with the world. If you're not able to take criticism, you might want to think again.
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ryan bailey
{K:61} 2/13/2003
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ok listen up i took the picture and you pussies are to fucking baby about it give him money to stay off the streets. He came up to us and talked to us he was funny so i got a pic and you know about the sunsets lay off the original shti and take pictures of bums. Sorry abotu the cursing but you guys are grown men/ women and you bitch about the dumbest shit, its a website, and a picture.
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Daniel Jarrett
{K:612} 2/13/2003
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Why so much hate? So I guess it gets a low rating because you don't like the point. What about the fact it's a good picture? Or the fact that Justin's wig is rediculously 80's? This picture rules!
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Anindya Maity
{K:7880} 2/13/2003
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This is a good candid,and a social comment.I don't get the rates( '1' after 8 ratings !!)It is not as if the photographer is in any way resposible for the scene,and pictures can't always be of beautiful sunsets.
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AJ Haselwood
{K:2148} 2/13/2003
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This image is sure to push some peoples buttons, already has. Emotions aside, I think the kid on the left is blown out as well as the bag. Agree with Chris that it is a strong commentary on our society, welcome to the real world.
aj
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Pete Kinser
{K:106} 2/13/2003
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great, two kids poking fun at a man and his misfortune. give yourself a pat on the back or a kick in the ass ? whichever you can manage
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Chris Lauritzen
{K:14949} 2/11/2003
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Strong comment on todays society and what it has become.
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